Crazy-ass Keys

"Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo" (rustyvandura)
07/19/2016 at 20:40 • Filed to: None

What’s the best, cheapest way to get keys — not fobs — like this one?

DISCUSSION (20)

My citroen won't start > Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo
07/19/2016 at 20:43

From that symbol you need to get the zodiac killer apparently

Captain of the Enterprise > Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo
07/19/2016 at 20:54

Does the key have a chip or is it just a cover? If it has a chip you can buy it on eBay get it cut at a hardware store and program it yourself but look it up first if you can program it yourself and what you need to do it varies from manufacturer to manufacturer. If no chip just go to the hardware store and ask to get a key cut

Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo > Captain of the Enterprise
07/19/2016 at 21:02

Pretty sure it has a chip.

Demon-Xanth knows how to operate a street. > Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo
07/19/2016 at 21:11

I need to know the make/model/year to give advice here. My ‘04 GP was easy to code for a second and third chipped key. My Ram is easy if and only if you have two working keys.

Urambo Tauro > Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo
07/19/2016 at 21:16

I prefer to get keys from the dealer, just so that I can get it properly cut according to the VIN, instead of copying however worn my current key is.

I believe that what you have there is a transponder key, and that little mark is referred to as “circle-plus”. After getting a new key cut, check YouTube for programming procedures.

Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo > Demon-Xanth knows how to operate a street.
07/19/2016 at 21:22

2013 Chevrolet Impala LT and thank you .

Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo > Urambo Tauro
07/19/2016 at 21:23

Any idea what a dealer-cut key costs?

Urambo Tauro > Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo
07/19/2016 at 21:30

Hopefully someone else can answer that. Last time I had to get a fancy key (about a decade ago) was on my old 1992 Lesabre (VATS key with a resistor pellet). It cost me about $30, and I didn’t have to program anything.

robbicus > Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo
07/19/2016 at 21:55

Can confirm, that key has a chip.

Agrajag > Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo
07/19/2016 at 22:03

That is a chip key and some hardware stores will be able to do it. Expect to pay around $80. That one in particular is a pain in the ass and you need a little shim to hold it in the machine properly.

Probably at least half the price of a dealer though.

Dave the car guy , still here > Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo
07/19/2016 at 22:20

Circle plus keys are supposed to retail at $29 and change but dealers regularly bump the price as high as $50. You need to call around. It also depends if you are getting it cut from an existing key or if the dealer is doing it from your title or registration. When they have to access GM Global Connect you might pay a dealer imposed access fee for the trouble. Better GM dealership key cutters like a Bianchi 994 can decode an existing key and cut a new one that even compensates for wear. It can tell you on the keypad what the original key code is when it decodes the old one. They are the best way to go, most GM dealers and few locksmiths have them. The coding from existing key is simple. You turn the ignition one notch with old key and watch for lock light to go off on dash, insert new key, turn dash lights on again, when lock symbol goes off again you turn the key to start car and it programs.

Dave the car guy , still here > Urambo Tauro
07/19/2016 at 22:22

Kinja'd!!!

The old VATS keys were just one of 15 different keys with resistors. The new circle + keys have an actual encoded chip. If you’ve had an issue with a worn cylinder connection you can cheat the system by soldering in a resistor of the correct value on the down the column harness that leads to the module. With the new coded circle + keys there is no way around the system that I’ve seen yet.

Urambo Tauro > Dave the car guy , still here
07/19/2016 at 22:56

Haha, yup! I remember having to research all that back when mine was acting up. For a short while, I had to resort to using the “bypass”, which involved turning the key “on” for a few minutes until the SECURITY lamp went out, at which point I could finally start it.

HFV has no HFV. But somehow has 2 motorcycles > Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo
07/19/2016 at 23:19

Dependeds on the car, last time I got an old chipped key it was, 40 for the key, 5 to cut it, and the dealership charged me 45 to get it coded.

Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo > Dave the car guy , still here
07/20/2016 at 11:43

Good morning Dave,

I called a dealer and it’s $29 to copy the existing key. $60 to access the database and get the “recipe.” I’ll probably just have them cut me a couple of copies and call it macaroni .

You are good Oppo. Thank you for being a helpful guy.

Demon-Xanth knows how to operate a street. > Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo
07/20/2016 at 12:14

To program the key is the same as my 04 Grand Prix. Insert the working key,turn it to the on position. Wait 5-10 seconds, quickly swap keys and turn the new one to the on position. Wait 5-10 seconds, turn to off. Then back on

Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo > Demon-Xanth knows how to operate a street.
07/20/2016 at 12:20

Thanks Man, it’s good. The Chevy dealership up the road makes the keys for $29 apiece. I can live with that.

Dave the car guy , still here > Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo
07/20/2016 at 13:15

Not a problem. Other than GM parts I’ve worked at Toyota, Ford, Nissan, AMC (showing my age) and Jeep. I’ve worked on almost everything at some point.Hello my name is Dave and I have a car addiction.

Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo > Dave the car guy , still here
07/20/2016 at 13:27

You are in good company.

CaptDale - is secretly British > Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo
07/20/2016 at 14:16

It is a chipped key. You should get the dealer key. Those you can program yourself. (GM dealer parts guy)